Poll: Foods used by dogs here and the insulin they get

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esspecial	Re: Poll: food and insulin, question for Natalie!	#41	[-]
Registered User Posts: 652 (12/12/06 09:05:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks, Natalie She has been on Derm caps most of her life as show dogs can never be too shiny! I found the Sea Pet fish oil (liquid) a few years ago and all my dogs get that daily. She has developed some fat pads in her flank, which I know could indicate Cushings. Her weight is good otherwise. She has signifcantly lost muscle mass and is quite squishy these days, yet her ribs are easily felt. She has never been a hard muscled girl even with 20 minutes a day on the treadmill when she was being campaigned. I have considered more exercise (she loves the treadmill), but have been reluctant to change much about her daily routine since she is perfectly regulated. I should get a Thyroid panel run as it has been several years since I ran one (it was normal then.) I have also noticed it takes her longer to "propel" herself up the stairs or onto the bed or couch, when it used to be effortless. She doesn't seem weak. She had a significant injury to her hock as a youngster, so I do worry about arthritis, and she is ten years old, so I know she will slow down a bit. (She is also on a joint support supplement) I would think with her easy regulation and maintaining her weight like she always has, that Cushings would be unlikely, wouldn't you? (I hope it is!) Monica
Unregistered(d)	Poll: food and insulin, question for Natalie!	#42	[-]
Posts: 0 (12/13/06 06:01:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Oscar - Bichon - Rapid Insulin Metabolism - 15 pounds Insulin: 2.5 units NPH at 6:00 a.m. 1 unit Regular at 4:00 p.m. 2.5 units NPH at 8:00 p.m. Meals consist of 1/3 chicken breast meat, 1/3 brown rice and 1/3 mixed vegetables. He could not tolerate any kibble due to allergies. Margo
k9diabetes	Re: Poll: food and insulin, question for Natalie!	#43	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1356 (12/13/06 10:05:53) Registered User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Monica, I don't necessarily think Cushings is likely but with such good regulation and derm oil and other supplements it does seem odd that her coat is not in great shape. Endocrine disorders tend to cause skin and coat problems so they were the first thing I thought of. If she's been eating a very low fat diet, perhaps the supplements still aren't enough to compensate. How long has it been this way? As long as she's been diabetic or is it a more recent development? In the one dog's case that I know of, they believe it was a reaction to the insulin that was causing a poor coat. When they switched to a pork-based insulin, which is the same molecule as canine insulin, they not only got good regulation but the dog grew in a plush new coat of fur. Natalie
esspecial	Re: Poll: food and insulin, question for Natalie!	#44	[-]
Registered User Posts: 652 (12/13/06 11:00:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Endocrine disorders tend to cause skin and coat problems so they were the first thing I thought of. If she's been eating a very low fat diet, perhaps the supplements still aren't enough to compensate. How long has it been this way? As long as she's been diabetic or is it a more recent development? ******************** I never put Lena on a reduced fat diet...for that reason. She just isn't growing hair like other spayed females I have had...or like she did prior to diabetes. She doesn't look unhealthy, but I just expected her to continue to be a hair factory, once she recovered from her failed pregnancy and spay surgery. I should probably stop worrying about it since she's doing so well otherwise. I did wonder about the HIGH fat content of the Innova Evo. Is their a downside to that if she tolerates it? She seems to like it well enough. Thanks, Monica
ESE84	Re: Poll: Foods used by dogs here and the insulin they get	#45	[-]
Posts: 13 (12/14/06 05:50:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Food: Eukanuba Optimum Weight Control (meat table scraps added when available) Insulin: Humulin N twice daily This regimin has served Durango well since October 2004.
Unregistered(d)	Diabetic and chocolate??	#46	[-]
Posts: 0 (12/14/06 07:37:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi- My Baileyboo was newly diagnosed with Diabetis, we take 11 units of lantis BID, we have also started on Science diet W/d. (A little on the thick side 100lbs Weimeriner) I think Bay might have ingested a bag of semi sweet chocolate chips. He has been acting kind of funny, like he is drunk? Now we are back to drinking lots of water, he looks kind of bloated, his back legs seem kind of weak? He is kind of old(between 10-14) I am not sure if I need to give him more insulin? Any suggestions?? Thanks!! Suzanne
hella	Diabetic and chocolate??	#47	[-]
Posts: 659 (12/14/06 11:20:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Suzanne, dogs in general are not supose to eat chocolate. Chocolate is toxic to dogs. I would call my vet and ask him. I hope all is going to be well. Alena
k9diabetes	Re: Poll: food and insulin	#48	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1356 (01/05/07 11:08:32) Registered User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Just renewing this topic.
fargopuppy	Re: Poll: food and insulin	#49	[-]
Registered User Posts: 411 (01/05/07 11:16:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Fargo: 92 Pound Chocolate Lab. Eats Eagle Pack Holistic -- the foul-smelling sardine formulatiuon that does not contain glucosamine (many of their formulations do) Gets 24 units Humulin N twice a day Takes DGP as a supplement
serendipity54	Re: Poll: food and insulin	#50	[-]
Registered User Posts: 161 (01/05/07 14:00:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Pepper diet (13.5 years old black cairn terrier): * science diet lite small bites * boil chicken breast * pumpkin (thanks Mike) * sometimes brocolli, green beans * sprinkle of parmesean cheese snack: chicken jerky (given when shot is given) on Novolin N 7 units twice daily weighs 17-18lbs blind hard of hearing Bambi
bowens2	Re: Poll: food and insulin	#51	[-]
Registered User Posts: 522 (01/21/07 08:56:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Monkey - lhasa apso terrier mix (I know it is probably spelled wrong & I need to look it up) 7 yrs old 28 lbs 10 units Lantus - twice a day Feeding times between 7 & 8 am and again between 6 to 8pm Food: Hills Prescription R/D Canned 3/4 can a day - mixed with 1/2 cup dry R/D - the same at each meal Supplements - 1 capsule milk thistle each meal and 1 scoop of NuPro mixed with AM Meal. I am thinking of trying something different due to the cost of the food but he is doing so well right now. I am paying over $120 in food a month and that's just the food. I really can't afford it. That is for two dogs although Monk eats the bulk of it. Now I am feeding a big dog but not the RD and my daughter's cat who's food I just paid $44 for a 10lb bag (boy I hope it lasts) and my cat who's food is minimal compared to the rest (God Bless her heart sometimes I feel like I slight her and she is such a good cat). Betty
eyelostit	Re: Poll: Foods used by dogs here and the insulin they get	#52	[-]
Registered User Posts: 2354 (01/28/07 16:07:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Niki has been on home cooked diet but i was cooking the vegetables instead of just chopping up fresh ones which I do now. 8/07 I use 3/4 C ground turkey 3/4 to 1 C chopped brocolli & green beans mix and 1/2 to 3/4 c cooked brown rice. I use less rice w evening meal She gets 9 1/2 U am 8 1/2 PM after 2-3 hrs i give a small piece of cooked brocolli or green bean and a morsel of cooked turkey. At about 5 hrs another small piece of broc and bit of turkey Insulin now I swithed from Humulin N to Walmarts Novolon N which is $19.95. I do 10 to 12 hour period injections then check BG at 10 hr, today fast was 147, hope for the best tonite, injection (all after meals), I can do a reading after 10 hours can get a 127-157, then sometimes after the snack it will go down 60 points, then goes back up as we near the 10 to 12 hours after food. I can always get a 300 out of the blue sometimes. the highs i get are usually before the 2nd meal. Sometimes if I can't make the 10-12 hr feeding her BG goes up to 250-300 or it can go down to 110 My dog weighs about 50-51 lbs I've noticed no difference in switching from Humulin N to the Novolin N at walmart How much nph do you guys use for 50-60 lbs doggies, and how often per day, the posts i've read so far are for the little doggies. Niki's mummy Niki's mummy
LynneP	Re: Poll: Foods used by dogs here and the insulin they get	#53	[-]
Registered User Posts: 734 (01/29/07 07:42:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Owen - 6 year old Cairn terrier; 23 lbs Food: Royal Canin Calorie Control CC High Fiber kibble and canned (1/2 cup dry + 2 tbsp cannned) to which we add egg and fat free cottage cheese or yogurt in the morning and cooked chicken, liver or salmon at night. Supplements are 1 fish oil capsule and 1/4 tsp of Berte's Immune Blend from B-Naturals for each meal. Treats: freeze dried liver (given after shots) and Science diet light chicken treats or Solid Gold Cinna-Bone or Old Dog Cookie Co. treats for Diabetics (one early afternoon and one before bed). Insulin: 6 1/2 units Novolin N after each meal. Lynne and Owen, Murphy & Alina
hella	Re: Poll: Foods used by dogs here and the insulin they get	#54	[-]
Posts: 659 (01/30/07 06:41:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	To Nikki's Mommy There is not much difference between Oats and Brown rice. 100 grams of brown rice has about 110 calories and 24 g carbohydrates. Oats have 63 calories and 10.6 g carbohydrates per 100 grams. So to get the same amount of calories as in 100 grams of rice you would have to feed 180 grams of oats and you would get only 19 g carbohydrates from it, it is a little bit lower than brown rice, but I understand the oats have higher GI than brown rice, so it would probably be the same result. Alena and Treu
carladc	Re: Poll: Foods used by dogs here and the insulin they get	#55	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1682 (02/05/07 08:08:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Schultz 14yo, 15lb Miniature Schnauzer Feeding: Home prepared- 1/2c raw chicken, beef heart or fish with 2T of rice. Fed 2x a day. Insulin: 5-6U Vetsulin
ladybugcyndi	Re: Poll: food and insulin	#56	[-]
Posts: 179 (02/11/07 11:19:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Rhett has been diabetic since 7/03. He was originally on Purina EN for pancreatitis. We opted to stay on that. He eats Can Purina EN .. twice daily... 1/4 can Dried lamb lungs for treats .. His insulin is Humulin N.. was on L, but changed when it was discontinued. We have tried switching to a better diabetic diet, but he won't eat dry, so that makes it a little more difficult. He was on IVD Hi-Factor for awhile, quit eating it, went to R/D.. that was a no-go, so we went back to EN, which he loves.
Chewytina	Re: Poll: food and insulin	#57	[-]
Registered User Posts: 57 (02/13/07 11:52:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Chewy eats: 1 cup Medi Cal Weight Control for Mature Dogs dry kibble mixed with 1/2 can Medi Cal Weight Control for Mature dogs soft food. sometimes i give her green beans with it as a treat, or if she wont eat it, as she sometimes doesnt want it, i give her tuna with the kibble.
peppersmom	Re: Poll: Foods used by dogs here and the insulin they get	#58	[-]
Posts: 46 (02/14/07 07:51:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Pepper Sue 1 heaping cup of Science Diet W/D, 1/3 c. chicken breast, 1 can no salt gr. beans, 3 TBLS chicken broth, 2 Fresh Factors, 5 In-Diet Supplements - 2 x/s day. Insulin: Humilin N - started 18 units, dropped to 15 units, dropped to 13 units.....working on dropping units again.
struglinmom	Re: Poll: Foods used by dogs here and the insulin they get	#59	[-]
Posts: 21 (03/12/07 06:16:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi, I feed Wellness Super5mix Sernior Mix dry kibble w/about 1/4 cup of boiled skinless, boneless chicken breast. Insulin is Novolin N
Mswhipple	Re: Poll: Foods used by dogs here and the insulin they get	#60	[-]
Registered User Posts: 585 (03/17/07 14:45:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello! I switched Aini to "WELLNESS" Senior Super5Mix about a week ago. She loves it, and her insulin requirements have dropped considerably. So far, I am very happy with it! I also supplement with a small amount of additional protein. Mary Ann & Aini

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